Partial Transcript: - [William] Do you remember the first mayor, the mayor of Bellevue?
Segment Synopsis: Eberhart talks about prominent members of the town, automobiles that she used and saw in her town, and the history of some buildings in Bellevue in the 1930's and 1940's, including the Bomber Plant, Hospital, Offut Air Base, and the Strategic Air Command (SAC). She also speaks about the Holly Roller and Presbyterian churches in town.
Keywords: Automobiles; Bellevue, Nebraska; Bomber Plant; Holly Roller Church; Hospital; Presbyterian Church; SAC; Strategic Air Comand; Streetcar; Transportation
Partial Transcript: - [William] Was your husband in World War I?
Segment Synopsis: Eberhart talks about her first and second husband and their jobs, the effects of the World Wars on Bellevue, and how the Post Office Functioned during that time, changing Postmasters with the change of the presidents.
Keywords: Post Office; SAC; Strategic Air Command; WW1; WWI; WWII; World War 1; World War 2; World War II; World War One
Partial Transcript: - [William] So far everyone we've interviewed has been male,
Segment Synopsis: Eberhart talks about the domestic side of life in early Bellevue. She mentions the wood stove that her family had and describes the type of food that they ate. She also tells the story of her husband shooting his arm off and talks about the doctor in town at the time.
Keywords: Bellevue, Nebraska; Food; General Store; REO Truck; Sewing; Wood Stove
- [William] Taped interview with Mrs. Julia Eberhart,
senior citizen, Bellevue, Nebraska,
22 February, 1979, by William Turner.
- [Julia] As the young, course I had to be the youngest,
- [William] Yes he lives, Mr. Kentner lives in
- [Julia] Oh.
- [William] Somewhere in Arkansas, anyway,
and he was just in on a visit.
He stopped by.
- [Julia] Yeah they had an old, a big farm down here
that I think they bought it from Stoffard,
and when they bought it.
But no Mama and Dad, and my sister and I.
I came here when I was well, not quite two years old,
cuz I know I can't remember much of the,
we came on the bottoms, we lived.
We came not to Bellevue, but to the bottoms.00:01:00
That is beyond where the Missouri River is,
down in there.
And we had a nice, well we had, I think Dad had
quite a bit of land,
but the channel, they hadn't riprapped the river then,
and the channel was wild.
And it eventually took Mama and Papa's place.
So we moved up then to the, well it's about
24th and Hancock, and they bought block 124.
And they built a home there.
And that's where sis and I, then we went to the Bellevue
Mission School, where the Bellevue Mission is.
And they talk about the ...
- [William] Okay you were talking about the Mission School.
- [Julia] Yeah well, we, Sis and I went to
the Mission School and the winters then was terrible,
they think this is bad winters, we didn't have such
a thing as sidewalks or roads then.
And Dad used to take us and walk us to school
and we'd go over the fence posts, the snow was so deep.
- [William] And Mr. Kentner said you used to walk
down the railroad tracks.
- [Julia] Yeah, and talk about railroad tracks
at that time, that's about the only way that
you could get to Omaha.
Papa used to, when he wanted to go to town,
he would hitch up the team, and that was on Hancock,
that was about to a mile down to the Burlington,
oh maybe more than a couple miles, down to the Burlington,
and the train went by about 8:20 in the morning.
And we would go up town on that.00:03:00
And then we'd come back at about 4:30 and that was it.
The only way we would have to go out of Bellevue,
at all unless it was from the team,
and then the road was terrible.
- [William] That's before you had the interurban?
- [Julia] Oh my the interurban didn't come here until 1906.
And I think it left around 1930, 31, maybe 29
I don't know just what year they took it away.
But, no that was the only way that we had,
and I do know that we used to watch the
Ak-Sar-Ben floats when they had the big floats
at Omaha, and we'd get on the streetcar from the depot,
and go off and go to town and then come back
just by the train.
- [William] You were in school, what kinds of books00:04:00
did you use?
- [Julia] Well there was, I guess just ordinary books.
- [William] Primers and things of that nature. They were furnished by the state,
- [Julia] I don't know, I wouldn't know who they was
furnished by, I know that we had... At that time,
Mission School now Mission High, we had Kindergarten
to the 10th grade, and from the 10th grade
they went on to the Bellevue college.
At that time Bellevue college was going.
And there was oh all the way from one two or three
grades in one room.
Cause Bellevue then was I imagine less than 500 people.
And Miss Kast, was one of our teachers that I went to,00:05:00
that had I think the third fourth fifth grade
something like that in her room.
- [William] Miss Kast?
- [Julia] Uh huh.
- [William] C O S S?
- [Julia] No K A S T, Laura Kast was there
and then there was Miss Stories,
and then there was Jessie Flint was the
Kindergarten teacher at that time.
And they built the house where Mrs. Ogurek lives now
her and her sister Jessie Flint.
I don't know, lets see.
- [William] What did you do for entertainment
when you were young?
- [Julia] Oh I don't know, we used to have00:06:00
we had a piano at our house,
and we had now people come in and we'd,
I'd play the piano and we'd sing,
and then as I got older we had dances,
there was dances up at the old corn house down here.
They gave dances there all the time.
And uh, that's about all the entertainment,
and then we went sleigh riding down the hill
where the water pad is now.
We had big sleigh riding parties and that
we'd go down there, sleigh ride down there.
That's about all the entertainment, there wasn't much.
- [William] When did you see your first movie?
- [Julia] Oh, I don't remember, it was,00:07:00
I was quite a bit older when I first saw my first movie.
- [William] When did they get their first movie house
here in Bellevue, about?
- [Julia] No I couldn't tell, it was later on.
It hasn't been,
well it must have been about 25 years ago.
I would imagine, I really don't know
cuz I worked in it, oh more than that,
I worked in it 25 years ago, it must have been...
- [William] Taking tickets?
- [Julia] Uh huh.
I worked at the base, and I had lost my first husband.
My first husband was county commissioner,
had been county commissioner for 20 years here.
- [William] Was that Mr. Trent?
- [Julia] Uh huh, and he was county commissioner00:08:00
when he passed away.
We had the store, before that, we had the store
here in Bellevue and that was uh,
on 19th and Main.
And we built that big, where the antique store,
you know that big building?
Well we built there, my husband and I built that.
- [William] Was that the only store in town?
- [Julia] No, tell you what, the oldest store,
they used to be Oscar Kaiser had a post office
and then Mr Wright had a store on the west side of the street
on Main Street, and he had a son by the name of Bob,
he was kind of, not all there
and he used to deliver groceries to us,
to people in wheelbarrows,00:09:00
and then up the street from him was a confectionary store, little confectionary store,
little brown building, and then the main store
was the store that my husband bought into before
we was married, that was up on 19th, or 20th and Main.
And we had that store then when Mr. Trent and
I was married in 1914.
- [William] How did you meet your husband?
- [Julia] Well, I knew him all my life.
We lived on Hancock and he lived on Main
and we were just neighbors.
- [William] Go to school together?
- [Julia] No, no he was much older than I,
he was 21 years older than I and
- [William] You mentioned Oscar Kaiser.00:10:00
- [Julia] He was the post master.
- [William] The villagers all thought quite a bit about him
he was quite wealthy.
- [Julia] Well, I wouldn't know, see he lived,
his home was on Hancock, they built that big house
on Hancock, it was about where the park is
and Hancock is the next street over, and it was the second
house, it's still standing, it's a beautiful big...
The Lineheim's built that. Carl Leinheim and his father.
But Oscar Kaiser had two sisters by the name of Emma and Vera.
And Oscar was the post master, and Vera I think
was the one that helped in the post office
and or Emma, I don't know which one of them00:11:00
worked in the post office, the other one kept house.
Cuz we had the grocery store, they used to trade with us,
right just kitty ramous across the block.
- [William] And Mr. Kaiser wasn't married?
- [Julia] None of em ever married, not Oscar
nor the two girls, neither one of them ever married.
- [William] You know how he made his money?
- [Julia] Well I didn't know he had a lot.
- [William] I got the impression from what Bill Robinson said
he quite well off.
- [Julia] Well, he might have been but I don't know.
See the tornado came and took all that away.
That, I don't believe that Oscar had a lot of money,
he might have had, but I wouldn't say he did.00:12:00
- [William] You said the tornado.
- [Julia] That's the tornado that came in 1908,
and at that time, as I said, the Bellevue school
went to the 10th grade, and then you had to go on into
Bellevue College and Dr. Kerr was the president then
of Bellevue College, but anyway,
where the First National Bank stands now
was a baseball diamond.
And the Bellevue school was playing the Bellevue College,
and about five o'clock a terrible storm came,
and the tornado hit at 5:30 that night.
And it took Oscar Kaiser, it destroyed most of
Pixie! (scolding dog)00:13:00
excuse me, most of the Wright's place (general store).
And destroyed an awful lot of things in Bellevue.
They just, over on the cliff, they took a lot of those
houses that was sitting on the cliff
and threw them in the river.
And up from us was a Holiness Church,
it was just a one room up there.
You know what the Holiness Church is?
And that was swept up and no one ever knew
what had happened to it,
it's about where the Baptist Church is now.
- [William] And I understand that they never rebuilt,
they kept holding the services.
- [Julia] Well the Salvation Army finally took it over,
and the Salvation Army had it for a while,00:14:00
and then eventually others came in there.
- [William] Do you remember the first mayor,
the mayor of Bellevue?
- [Julia] Who did, was it Madison?
- [William] Bill Robinson gave me the impression
it was almost a city manager kind of government.
- [Julia] Yeah.
- [William] There really wasn't a mayor.
- [Julia] I don't think so, I know Maxie was on the board,
Fred Maxie but I didn't think too,
you know when you're a kid you don't pay too much attention
to who's on the board who isn't so, I went to work
uptown and I was quite young then.
- [William] At the theater? Or were you working somewhere00:15:00
before the theater?
- [Julia] Oh my, I worked in the theater after I was married
but before I was married I worked up town
to a resting establishment, at the Hardcaffs.
See that's when, I could go on the bus,
the bus would leave, 44th and N on the hour.
Yet down through Bellevue station, you happen to know
where Bellevue station was?
Down there at 20 minutes after the hour,
it would go on into Fort Crook, and at the end of
the run at Fort Crook, Ma and Pa Fisher,
he was the sergeant, of just a sergeant
but they all called them Ma and Pa Fisher.
They had what they called a service station,
they served light lunches and coffee and things like that.00:16:00
And that street car would stay there until the half past
then turn around and come back.
And that's the way we went back on the streetcar.
It had, at 16th street the, did you know where
the station was at 16th street?
- [William] The Burlington?
- [Julia] No, the street car.
- [William] Oh the interurban station, yes.
- [Julia] Well, and uh.
What else was it you would like to know?
- [William] Automobiles.
- [Julia] Well that was, my dad had an old,
I don't know where he ever got it, but he had an old
Oldsmobile but he didn't know much about running it,00:17:00
so it stood in the barn, it wasn't a garage it was a barn
and we never had any cars, we used horse and buggy
and a lot of people I know just had a buggy and a horse.
- [William] And in winter you would change it for a sled?
- [Julia] Yeah.
Cuz I know when, because see here in Bellevue
we didn't have any roads.
I think Franklin street was the first one paved,
and even in 19, I went to work at the base in 1940
and even then, the streets in Bellevue,
you couldn't get around in it them.
Franklin, they paved that first, and there used to be00:18:00
a lot of cars, they'd park the cars on Franklin
and walk home so they could get out in the morning.
- [William] You said you went to work at the base,
actually it was plane that,
- [Julia] No I worked at the, for the Army change service,
I went to work in August of 1940.
- [William] At Fort Crook?
- [Julia] Yeah see that was the only... the old 17th (Infantry) was here then.
And at the time of the cyclone,
see there was no, Wherry (housing) it wasn't even partly
where the Bomber Plant stands now there was
a beautiful hospital, Fort Crook hospital.
And all this was hay, in there where the Wherry is now.
And all that, and before my husband and I were married,
him and his dad used to cut that hay,00:19:00
for half, I don't know for part of it.
cause they had mules at the base, there was
an old mule barn there when the 17th was here.
I think that was just torn down year or so ago.
- [William] The hospital was the big brick building
that used to be right by the main gate?
- [Julia] Yeah, it was right where the bomber plant,
where the big building sits now, where the headquarters
is now, and not the SAC headquarters
but the uh.
- [William] Base headquarters?
- [Julia] Base headquarters.
- [William] As I didn't realize there had been a hospital
there, when I came here in 1949 they had
the red brick hospital, down by the officers row.
- [Julia] Yeah, yeah, that was down, way down
at the end, that was when they was building,
they had that and then they built the big hospital.00:20:00
Yes, no see they had, where the bomber plant sits then,
there was a nice hospital.
Because they were stressing that you had to save material,
and that you couldn't buy this, and you couldn't have this,
you couldn't have this.
And they would tear out the good bathrooms
and all that stuff and at that time carry it down
and put it in the ditch, right south of the main,
of that road that goes west/east of the base.
And cover it up, I betcha down there
there's lots of plumbing.
Yeah, and they tore that down and then built
the bomber building and moved the hospital down
as you said in that, it was part of the quarters
down south of the officers court.00:21:00
And then at that time when SAC moved in,
they took one quarters away, you knew that?
- [William] No.
- [Julia] Yeah, they took that to where the fence is,
one of the big base, the officers quarters,
they destroyed that, they took that away.
- [William] That must have been about 1948 then?
- [Julia] Well, let's see, SAC came here in 45, didn't they?
- [William] 1948, I think.
- [Julia] 1948, cuz I know we was gettin ready to close,
I worked over there 17 years,
and we was getting ready to close Fort Crook
when we got word that SAC was coming in.
When I went to work there there the old 17th00:22:00
was there and they went to Fort Ord.
- [William] In California.
- [Julia] Yeah and then the 22nd Air Force came in
there for a while.
- [William] The soldiers, what did they do,
during the daytime, just drilled?
- [Julia] Well they drilled, and if you ever
wanna see anything that was pretty, that parade ground
was the most beautiful thing that you ever saw.
And if you ever walked across there on the grass
you would get court-martialed I think.
They had... Every Sunday they'd have a band concert.
And they tore the band quarters down too when Sac came in
cuz when the seven sheath left, the band went of course,
they always had a band and it left,00:23:00
and there wasn't any use for the band quarters so they
tore that down.
- [William] They actually had a concert every Sunday?
- [Julia] Uh huh.
- [William] Do you know of any other sod houses
in this area other than the old fire station down there
where the old library was down in the park.
- [Julia] No, there was a lot of old houses,
but I never knew any sod ones.
- [William] You probably knew the hermit then.
- [Julia] Oh, you mean Baldwins?
Do you know, you talk about him now he was bright,
and he bought, I knew the whole Baldwin family,
see and just a block south of us, was an old Hennickson Dairy00:24:00
and these Baldwin boys they would bring down
old man Hennickson lived in Omaha and they'd get a load a malt
and bring down that malt for those cattle.
And of course the Hennickson children,
Mae Hennickson and I was good friends,
and I spent about half my time down there.
And those Baldwin boys, it was Jim, and there was Teddy,
and three or four, and there was girl by the name of Nellie,
I think Nellie Baldwin is still alive.
But Ted was supposed to be the hermit wasn't he?
- [William] I thought it was Jim?
- [Julia] Jim was oldest.
- [William] I thought Bill had said Jim.
- [Julia] No I don't think it was Jim,00:25:00
Jim was a pretty nice fella,
I don't know, I always thought it was Ted,
but that all happened after they quit.
They had these, to get rid of the dairy,
and then after the dairy I didn't know much about
the Baldwin boys, but I knew them all well.
And when you, said that they, they all was smart,
not smart but they was average young men.
- [William] I was gonna ask you something but I forgot
I was going to ask you.
- [William] Gonna have a little blind spot from00:26:00
where we left off, where we pick up again here.
The only two churches in town were the Holy Roller
and the Presbyterian?
- [Julia] Presbyterian, and see the town went off
with the Presbyterian church which built the steeple.
- [William] Do you remember anything about the fire department?
- [Julia] No.
- [William] But your police though.
- [Julia] I never got mixed up with them.
- [William] (laughs) you never got caught
- [Julia] But I will tell you something about the church,
the early church life here, we had a Bellevue Men's Club
at that time, the Bellevue men, and they had
oh probably 100 maybe not quite that many, members.00:27:00
And our church members, our ladies aid and our Women's Club
would, they'd have once a month they'd have dinners,
those two, I think they tore those two little buildings
down, that they had Sunday Schools that they had
added on to the Presbyterian church.
But that's where we used to have our
Bellevue Men's Club dinner, and at that time,
Bellevue Men's Club was quite prominent here.
That's what most of the men belonged to that.
- [William] Was your husband in World War I?
- [Julia] No my husband wasn't in the service at all.
My second husband, retired from the service.
My first husband died in, 1950 while I was working
at the base and then I remarried in 1953
and was married almost 25 years, my husband00:28:00
just died in December.
- [William] Was he stationed here at all?
What was his job?
- [Julia] He was supply, in supply.
- [William] At the headquarters or at the base?
- [Julia] At the headquarters.
- [William] You know what years?
- [Julia] No see we didn't marry til 1953,
and he, I think he enlisted in Omaha and he was over,
he was waiting in the Guadalcanal for three years,
and never came back to the States until after
the three years.
But I didn't know him then, I met him over at the base.
- [William] When did you retire?
- [Julia] 1966.
- [William] I think I knew him is the reason I'm asking.
- [Julia] He was a barber, he had a barber shop here.
- [William] No I mean before he reitred at the base.00:29:00
- [Julia] Maybe you did.
- [William] That's why it has to be at SAC headquarters
because I think he was in headquarters, up on the third floor.
- [Julia] Yeah.
- [William] Can you remember what effects World War I had?
- [Julia] Oh, yes.
We was in the store business at that time,
and well it was bad, seeing all they guys go away.
It didn't effect Bellevue so much, I remember
when Bill Robinson and them went away and came back.
- [William] Bill said he never made it to the front.
- [Julia] Didn't, yeah I knew the Robinson's well.
- [William] What about World War II, that must have had
a more dramatic effect on you.00:30:00
- [Julia] Yeah well I was working at the base then see.
And then I had charge of the induction center.
When they opened it.
well I had charge of the, part of the PX,
and then when the officer opened up the PX
in the induction center, I went up and opened that up
and stayed in there when they inducted the boys
into the service.
- [William] You didn't, you weren't married to your
second husband till after WWII.
- [Julia] Oh no, we wasn't married til '53.
No I was married to Mr Trent, because he passed00:31:00
away in 1950, he passed away out on the road
with a heart attack.
He was county commissioner, on a Sunday he
went out to look at the roads and then
he had a heart attack, passed away before they brought him home.
- [William] Your grandson isn't it, in the postal service?
What kind of postal service did you have early on?
- [Julia] We didn't have postal service.
We had boxes, Oscar Kaiser we had to go to the post office
and had to have a box and had to have a combination.
And you paid 35 cents I think, for a quarter, three months.
I can remember that because we'd go
and go and get our mail.00:32:00
And than at one time, after the tornado
the post office, we had the post office in
our store building and my husband was postmaster
during Roosevelt, was president,
cuz he was a Democrat and at that time
it all went, when the Democrats went in
the Democrat post office went in,
and when it was a Republican it was a Republican
postmaster went in, but now I guess that's all changed.
- [William] I have the name of a lady who had worked
at the post office down to Kansas, she must be
almost 100 years old.
- [Julia] Who is it, Beth Smith?
- [William] That doesn't sound right, her husband
is a minister, or her son is a minister in Kansas.
- [Julia] Her husband is a minster?00:33:00
- [William] Her son, is a minister in Kansas.
Beth Smith was one of the postal firsts?
- [Julia] She was a clerk for Will, all the while he was.
And you say this woman is,
- [William] She must be almost 100.
- [Julia] And she worked at the post office?
- [William] She was a member of the presbyterian Church,
that's how we got the name.
- [Julia] Well there was a Beth Smith,
and then there was I don't know
we'll let that ring, it's alright.
- [William] So far everyone we've interviewed has been00:34:00
male, and I need to know about the kitchens
when you were young.
Wood stoves I presume?
- [Julia] Oh yeah, we had those when I was real young,
we had the just a big stove with a reservoir on the back
that kept the water hot,
and Pop would chop the wood for it,
and then we had in the front room we had a, burner, a coal burner
and every time my mother would put isinglass
in the door, she'd get something else and burn out,
we had all those holes, I guess that's before your time though,
you didn't know what eyes and glass was did you?
- [William] No.
- [Julia] No, well it's stuff that they'd put it,
it wouldn't burn but in the old fashioned stove00:35:00
they had so you could look in to see if the stove
was burning, instead of, some other kind of stuff.
And I remember so many times Mama would try to put
other things in and it would burn out.
- [William] Like a window, in the stove?
- [Julia] Yeah.
- [William] How about your meals?
This was all farm country.
- [Julia] Oh yes, definitely.
Where this house sits now used to be a big baseball diamond.
And this was all in cornfields, things like that.
- [William] I had some kin folks, if you will, from Georgia
way out on the farm and I'd go to visit them.
The kind of meals they would serve would be like
two or three different kinds of meat,
four or five vegetables, three pitchers of milk,
was that typical of the farm communities here,
that kind of meals?
- [Julia] Well it wasn't with our family, because we
just didn't have that much.
Papa used to kill his own hogs, and he had a smoke house,00:36:00
and he'd smoke the hams.
And he'd put some meat down in drying,
and they made their own sauerkraut, Papa had a big
gardens and that's about what we would live on.
- [William] What kind of vegetables would you grow?
- [Julia] Oh everything, always raised beautiful
beautiful garden, sweet potatoes, and potatoes.
We had a cave, that they used to keep the potatoes
and stuff in.
And we had a cow, and that's about the way we lived.
- [William] No beef?
- [Julia] Well, yes, maybe I don't know, not too much.
We, I don't remember having much beef.
If we had steak it would be a very rare treat.00:37:00
- [William] Chicken?
- [Julia] Yes we had a lot of chicken,
cuz Mama raised chickens, yes.
And she used to raise chickens and raise wildflowers.
- [William] Mostly fried chicken, or baked chicken?
- [Julia] Mostly fried and baked, and stewing
and chicken and dumplings.
- [William] Did a lot of canning I guess.
- [Julia] No Mama wasn't much for canning because
she canned tomatoes but a lot of times they spoiled.
They didn't know a lot about the methods they do now,
and Mom used to can tomatoes in an open kettle.
Most always didn't turn out too good.
No we just didn't have very much food.00:38:00
But Mama always saw that we went to Sunday School.
- [William] The pork you said they put in brine.
How long could you keep that?
- [Julia] Oh long time, it eventually would
be like salt pork, that's what salt pork.
But Papa would take the hams and bake them
and smoke them
and then he made sauerkraut, and we our own horseradish,
he was great at the horseradish.
And we'd grind our own coffee,
and lots of time we had chicory cuz that was cheaper
came home about six or eight inches long and around.00:39:00
That's about all, that's the early part
that I can remember, the hard part of it.
- [William] Did you make your own clothes?
- [Julia] Well no, but I did sew some for my mother
I used to make her aprons and things,
but I never made any of my own,
she use to sew and make us kids dresses
and things like that, but then after I got
to working at Omaha, I bought some of my own.
- [William] Did you, what all kind of products
did you have in the store?
- [Julia] In our big store?
Everything it was the only general store in Bellevue
at that time, we had, yard goods and we had
home stocks, sausages, and oh, meat,00:40:00
my husband was a butcher before he lost his arm.
He shot his arm off, and before it.
We just had everything, and we delivered
and the only way we could get our stuff down to Bellevue
was we had McCordon Brady's and Paston Gallagher
in Omaha, and they'd bring everything down
that we would order to the Acme transfer company
in South Omaha, and then we had,
we owned a big Reo truck, and they would,
cuz you had to have, the mud was so bad.
We'd have to go to South Omaha and pick up
the groceries and bring it down in our big truck
and that's the way we got it.
We had feed too, crack corn and wheat and things like that00:41:00
for the chickens.
- [William] You said Rio truck it's
- [Julia] R E O
- [William] Bev Hardy's gonna transcribe
this tape, I'll bet she's never heard a REO truck.
She gonna think you said real.
- [Julia] No it's REO, it's a big Reo truck
it stood real high, and it, that's the only
it was high, see, it could get through the mud.
That's the way the mud was when my husband shot
his arm off.
He, it was before, well it was about 63 years ago
he shot his arm off,
he was hunting across those, him and four or five00:42:00
four boys, four men, and they crossed the river
in a boat to hunt rabbits.
And he'd bought a new gun, at that time,
they was building the big gym up to the college,
and there was a man there that was quite a sport.
And he used to come down to the store and talk to Will,
and he said he had a gun but he didn't know how
to work it, it wasn't good.
And Will said, he said he wanted to sell it to him,
and Will said well bring it down.
So he brought it down, and so Will was to take it out
and use it, well he went across the river
and a swells, shell.
He put it in his gun.
And he thought that he had locked the gun, and he hadn't
and course it was an automatic or some kind00:43:00
the rod come up to the center.
Anyway he pushed it down and when he pushed it down
the old shell came out and the new shell came in
and shot him, there, and here, and here.
So they, the mud was so bad that they had to load him
in five different vehicles before they could get him
to Jennie Edmundson hospital.
And then they amputated the arm.
- [William] Where is that hospital?
- [Julia] In Council Bluffs.
- [William] What was your nearest local hospital
here on this side of the river.
- [Julia] South Omaha had a very good hospital.
- [William] You must have had a local doctor?
- [Julia] Oh Dr. Betz
- [William] First name?
- [Julia] Joseph, there's a school right here
named after him.
Oh yeah Dr. Betz, he was a doctor here for years00:44:00
and then he had a son by the name of Donald
and he had a daughter of the name of Carmen,
and Carmen died quite early in life
and Don was I think just ready to
I don't know whether he had gotten out of school yet
or not but just ready to, become a full-fledged doctor,
and his Dad kidney trouble and died within just a few days.
And well, I tell ya, will you go see Oscar Kaiser's home?
Dr. Betsy's home is right across the street from
And the old Betz'a Dr Betz's mother and father
lived on the next corner,
his house is on the north east corner
and his father, where he was raised was right00:45:00
on the other corner of the block.
His mother and father.
- [William] Are there any other prominent citizens
that come to mind?
- [Julia] Doctors?
- [William] Like doctors, lawyers.
- [Julia] No there wasn't any doctors cuz Dr Betz
was about the only one here.
And some of the people had doctors in South Omaha,
like McCran and those
but they couldn't very well get here until after
the streetcar started.
Well, no I don't know. I knew the depot agent,
Mr. George Baker was the depot agent,
and then Mr. Simon was the depot agent
for so many many years now.00:46:00
Is there anything else that I can.
- [William] You said the depot agent, we talking the interurbnan
now or train?
- [Julia] No, train.
- [William] Have you got friends you still correspond
with that moved away?
- [Julia] No, no I don't.
I don't do much writing.
- [William] With so little business here I have to assume
that a lot of people moved away.
- [Julia] Oh yeah, yeah, Bellevue has sure changed.
I don't know whether I did you any good or not.
- [William] Oh I'm sure you did, yes, yes you did.
- [Julia] But um.